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the defense had real evidence in this case on their side. this jury was not acting in a completely irrational manner. i don't know if they're right or they're wrong, but there was plenty of evidence to conclude that george zimmerman was not guilty. >> in order for this jury to have found george zimmerman not guilty, they had to believe that trayvon martin was an aggressive boy. he was an aggressive person, that he attacked first. and part of i think the reasoning behind why they would believe that narrative is because they were afraid of and they feared that young black boy. and they saw him as an attacker. >> i want to bring in raymond santana. he was one of the new york so-called central park five. he was 14 years all when the five were convicted of a brutal attack on a new york jogger in 1995. the public outcry at the time was enormous. the media used that term "wilding" they called it a wolfpack of young men in the park. there was tremendous pressure to catch whoever did it. raymond santana did not do it but he served 13 years? >> 7 year
the defense had real evidence in this case on their side. this jury was not acting in a completely irrational manner. i don't know if they're right or they're wrong, but there was plenty of evidence to conclude that george zimmerman was not guilty. >> in order for this jury to have found george zimmerman not guilty, they had to believe that trayvon martin was an aggressive boy. he was an aggressive person, that he attacked first. and part of i think the reasoning behind why they would...
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. >> the impacts of sequestration, like the furloughs of 650,000 defense workers now, keep piling up, the pressure is going to grow among republicans to come to the table. >> reporter: about that jobs prediction, some leading republicans say employers are reluctant to hire with obama care on the horizon, and they know part-time employment is the growth area. bret? >> mike, thank you. >>> in our latest "it's all your money" segment, since the worst of the financial crisis, belt tightening has become popular again with individuals and families. most by necessity with fewer dollars coming in, less can be spent on frivolous things. but it's been a self-imposed necessity. a choice. well, now in california, those already struggling to get by may be forced, forced to live with even less now in hopes of having more in the future. we explain. >> thinking about retirement, they're thinking about today and i need my money to eat today, not to retire with. >> reporter: the california solution, force employers who don't offer retirement plans to withhold 3% of every worker's paycheck. >> mentally,
. >> the impacts of sequestration, like the furloughs of 650,000 defense workers now, keep piling up, the pressure is going to grow among republicans to come to the table. >> reporter: about that jobs prediction, some leading republicans say employers are reluctant to hire with obama care on the horizon, and they know part-time employment is the growth area. bret? >> mike, thank you. >>> in our latest "it's all your money" segment, since the worst of the...
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she doesn't really address anything about self-defense. during jury selection, she did not say she was puerto rican. it did not come up. i don't believe in the questionnaire that she said that because the prosecutor said black and/or hispanic. i was in jury selection every day of it and they were five puerto ricans, one after another, who said they were from port rico, they said in our culture, we do not believe in self-defense, thou shall not kill and if someone defends themselves, that's murder. >> mark, i know you don't get to be in the jury room as a lawyer but what do you think wept nt on those two days to the point where she wanted to convicted for second degree murder and to the point where she believed he was not guilty? >> these are very common dynami dynamics. this is the jury system at work. it happens really in almost every case. rare is it that you have a case where a jury comes back in five or ten or 30 minutes or even an hour. it usually requires everybody analyzing the evidence that came in, going back and forth, comparing
she doesn't really address anything about self-defense. during jury selection, she did not say she was puerto rican. it did not come up. i don't believe in the questionnaire that she said that because the prosecutor said black and/or hispanic. i was in jury selection every day of it and they were five puerto ricans, one after another, who said they were from port rico, they said in our culture, we do not believe in self-defense, thou shall not kill and if someone defends themselves, that's...
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the plant near by has defensible space. trains also run through the area and that's often said to have sparked. >> the windows in the house are still closed. just because once the smell gets in there it's kind of irritating. >> reporter: no structures lost in this four hour fire fight. but a couple of big riggs parked along the highway were scorched and had to be saved in a hurry. all told, 120 acres burned on a piece of land that residents tell me has a fire just about every summer. reporting live in bay point, deborah villalon, ktvu news. >>> this video have from a ktvu viewer and shows the flames and smoke. >>> ktvu has learned that construction crews will move forward with the so called quick fix for the eastern span of the bay bridge. we're told caltrans is already building the shims needed to provide support after the failure of a few dozen failed rods. those shims will be ready early next month. by mid-august, an engineering review should find if those shims are necessary. >> no decisions have been made on if the shi
the plant near by has defensible space. trains also run through the area and that's often said to have sparked. >> the windows in the house are still closed. just because once the smell gets in there it's kind of irritating. >> reporter: no structures lost in this four hour fire fight. but a couple of big riggs parked along the highway were scorched and had to be saved in a hurry. all told, 120 acres burned on a piece of land that residents tell me has a fire just about every...
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the plant near by has defensible space. trains also run through the area and that's often said to have sparked. >> the windows in the house are still closed. just because once the smell gets in there it's kind of irritating. >> reporter: no structures lost in this four hour fire fight. but a couple of big riggs parked along the highway were scorched and had to be saved in a hurry. all told, 120 acres burned on a piece of land that residents tell me has a fire just about every summer. reporting live in bay point, deborah villalon, ktvu news. >>> this video have from a ktvu viewer and shows the flames and smoke. >>> ktvu has learned that construction crews will move forward with the so called quick fix for the eastern span of the bay bridge. we're told caltrans is already building the shims needed to provide support after the failure of a few dozen failed rods. those shims will be ready early next month. by mid-august, an engineering review should find if those shims are necessary. >> no decisions have been made on if the shi
the plant near by has defensible space. trains also run through the area and that's often said to have sparked. >> the windows in the house are still closed. just because once the smell gets in there it's kind of irritating. >> reporter: no structures lost in this four hour fire fight. but a couple of big riggs parked along the highway were scorched and had to be saved in a hurry. all told, 120 acres burned on a piece of land that residents tell me has a fire just about every...
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one of the defense attorneys added, "you can't pick or choose who's going to benefit from a law." advocates of stand your ground tend to argue the law increases public safety, but when the courts are saying it creates a wild west, acknowledging that fact as they set killers free, it's hard to take the notion of public safety seriously. the verdict in the george zimmerman trial two weeks ago might be the most high-profile example of stand your ground's unintended consequences, but it is just one of many in the eight years since then-governor jeb bush signed stand your ground into law. 13 days ago in the wake of the zimmerman verdict, a group of protesters marched into the florida state capitol, to the reception area outside governor rick scott's office. the latest sheriff of florida's wild west and those prosecutors haven't left -- and those protesters haven't left since. first they said they wanted to meet with the governor, and it actually happened. after a few days of staying away from his office, governor scott held a meeting with a protester. the group, which calls itself the
one of the defense attorneys added, "you can't pick or choose who's going to benefit from a law." advocates of stand your ground tend to argue the law increases public safety, but when the courts are saying it creates a wild west, acknowledging that fact as they set killers free, it's hard to take the notion of public safety seriously. the verdict in the george zimmerman trial two weeks ago might be the most high-profile example of stand your ground's unintended consequences, but it...
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defense contractors. if the u.s. decided and the white house decided to cancel the contracts all together it would have a boom rang effect if not on the entire u.s. economy certainly with with u.s. defense contractors who are counting on the money and invested a lot of it. so members of congress and the white house have taken that into account before they think about canceling major contracts that a lot of u.s. jobs are relying on. >> thank you very much, jessica yellin. >>> still to come, ariel castro was back in court, the man who held three women captive allegedly for more than a decade may cut a deal. those women may also have to testify. they are next. plus the latest in the anthony weiner saga. the identity of the latest online. one hesitates to use the word if you read the lewd messages that he was sending her. >>> and then the pope visits brazil. why authorities raised security to the highest possible level. >>> and the week after the "rolling stone" controversial cover when dzhokhar tsarnaev was put on the c
defense contractors. if the u.s. decided and the white house decided to cancel the contracts all together it would have a boom rang effect if not on the entire u.s. economy certainly with with u.s. defense contractors who are counting on the money and invested a lot of it. so members of congress and the white house have taken that into account before they think about canceling major contracts that a lot of u.s. jobs are relying on. >> thank you very much, jessica yellin. >>>...
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john: and that is why you have a problem here. [ cheers and applause ] unless, unless, unless in his defense, unless what you said "i feel like a different person" you meant from my wife. i feel like having a different person from the one you see forcing a smile next to me in this photograph. so the disgusting details of this story are a problem for weiner, but they're also a problem for the newsies trying to cover them. >> most of the exchange is too graphic for network television. >> john: you're right. but here's the thing. we're not on network television. [ cheers and applause ] this is basic cable, my friends. and sure we may be bleepd but we will not be embarrassed or silenced. what i'm actually allowed to read these exchanges i'm not physically able to do it. they're just too revolting which is why we have a special computer text-to-voice machine. the pervert-tron5000. read the first upsetting text message. >> i start to [bleep] so hard. your [bleep] almost hit you in the face. >> john: how is is that even sexy? that's a fundamental lack of understanding of what breasts can do. then i
john: and that is why you have a problem here. [ cheers and applause ] unless, unless, unless in his defense, unless what you said "i feel like a different person" you meant from my wife. i feel like having a different person from the one you see forcing a smile next to me in this photograph. so the disgusting details of this story are a problem for weiner, but they're also a problem for the newsies trying to cover them. >> most of the exchange is too graphic for network...
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. >> zimmerman claims he shot trayvon mart 9 self-defense and now in hiding. after protest supporting trayvon sparked nationwide. >> i think if there had been one or even 2 more mady back there, this could have been hung jury. >>reporter: mady says she still wrestles with whether she made the right decision. >> standby the decision because of the law. standby the decision because of my heart, he would have been guilty. >>reporter: mady says she owes martin parents an apology because she feels she was forcefully included in his death. this is abc news los angeles. >> you can see more of mady exclusive interview with gma anchor robin roberts on "nightline"tonight at 12:35 and again tomorrow morning on good morning america. >> investigators believe excessive speed was to blame for the train derailment in spain. chilling video shows the train racing around a curve more than double the speed limit. 110 miles an hour. train suddenly jumped the track. 80 people killed. including woman from virginia. train engineer is now under investigation several on line blog say 5
. >> zimmerman claims he shot trayvon mart 9 self-defense and now in hiding. after protest supporting trayvon sparked nationwide. >> i think if there had been one or even 2 more mady back there, this could have been hung jury. >>reporter: mady says she still wrestles with whether she made the right decision. >> standby the decision because of the law. standby the decision because of my heart, he would have been guilty. >>reporter: mady says she owes martin parents...
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. >> zimmerman claims he shot trayvon mart 9 self-defense and now in hiding. after protest supporting trayvon sparked nationwide. >> i think if there had been one or even 2 more mady back there, this could have been hung jury. >>reporter: mady says she still wrestles with whether she made the right decision. >> standby the decision because of the law. standby the decision because of my heart, he would have been guilty. >>reporter: mady says she owes martin parents an apology because she feels she was forcefully included in his death. this is abc news los angeles. >> you can see more of mady exclusive interview with gma anchor robin roberts on "nightline"tonight at 12:35 and again tomorrow morning on good morning america. >> investigators believe excessive speed was to blame for the train derailment in spain. chilling video shows the train racing around a curve more than double the speed limit. 110 miles an hour. train suddenly jumped the track. 80 people killed. including woman from virginia. train engineer is now under investigation several on line blog say 5
. >> zimmerman claims he shot trayvon mart 9 self-defense and now in hiding. after protest supporting trayvon sparked nationwide. >> i think if there had been one or even 2 more mady back there, this could have been hung jury. >>reporter: mady says she still wrestles with whether she made the right decision. >> standby the decision because of the law. standby the decision because of my heart, he would have been guilty. >>reporter: mady says she owes martin parents...
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. >> zimmerman claims he shot trayvon mart 9 self-defense and now in hiding. after protest supporting trayvon sparked nationwide. >> i think if there had been one or even 2 more mady back there, this could have been hung jury. >>reporter: mady says she still wrestles with whether she made the right decision. >> standby the decision because of the law. standby the decision because of my heart, he would have been guilty. >>reporter: mady says she owes martin parents an apology because she feels she was forcefully included in his death. this is abc news los angeles. >> you can see more of mady exclusive interview with gma anchor robin roberts on "nightline"tonight at 12:35 and again tomorrow morning on good morning america. >> investigators believe excessive speed was to blame for the train derailment in spain. chilling video shows the train racing around a curve more than double the speed limit. 110 miles an hour. train suddenly jumped the track. 80 people killed. including woman from virginia. train engineer is now under investigation several on line blog say 5
. >> zimmerman claims he shot trayvon mart 9 self-defense and now in hiding. after protest supporting trayvon sparked nationwide. >> i think if there had been one or even 2 more mady back there, this could have been hung jury. >>reporter: mady says she still wrestles with whether she made the right decision. >> standby the decision because of the law. standby the decision because of my heart, he would have been guilty. >>reporter: mady says she owes martin parents...
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it was a straight self-defense case. this type of self-defense that exists everywhere, they exist in new york. if somebody is threatening you and was about to cause serious physical injury or death, you are allowed to retaliate, unless you have an opportunity to escape, that's what the stand your ground rule goes. but here -- when someone's on top of you punching you in the face. so it's a heart wrenching case. nobody wanted trayvon martin to die. george zimmerman didn't want trayvon martin to die. george zimmerman wasn't some drug dealer who was out there carrying around a .45 to transfer kilos of coke. he was doing what he thought he needed to do. there was bad judgment on his part. there were mistakes on his part. but if george zimmerman got the death penalty, trayvon martin is still not graduating high school. he's still not going to the prom. he's still not giving her grandchildren. and that breaks everybody's heart. i'm sure it breaks george zimmerman's heart as well. but we can't get so caught up in emotions that
it was a straight self-defense case. this type of self-defense that exists everywhere, they exist in new york. if somebody is threatening you and was about to cause serious physical injury or death, you are allowed to retaliate, unless you have an opportunity to escape, that's what the stand your ground rule goes. but here -- when someone's on top of you punching you in the face. so it's a heart wrenching case. nobody wanted trayvon martin to die. george zimmerman didn't want trayvon martin to...
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you know, our red zone, our defense, we looked at that today. it wasn't that good. we gave up a lot of touchdowns. we've got to improve on that. i'm pretty sure there were other yeas that the coach is going to hit on. we'll focus on that going into camp more. >>> of course you would never know, but i don't really see jim harbaugh doing what his brother john did the other day with his team, the ravens. bringing an ice cream truck in to break up the monotony of camp. looks like the guys went full tilt with that. breaking their diets. all around, a pretty good idea. i talked recently, fairly recently to john madden. he said training camp used to be fun. you'd get your work in, but you'd also have fun, that was kind of nice to see. so much of it is business right now. >> looks like that was fun. >> old school. >>> thank you for making ktvu your choice for news. >> the ktvu morning team will have the latest on negotiations to try to avoid a second b.a.r.t. strike. we're always here for you on ktvu.com on twitter, and your mobile device. [ringing] hello. man: this is your
you know, our red zone, our defense, we looked at that today. it wasn't that good. we gave up a lot of touchdowns. we've got to improve on that. i'm pretty sure there were other yeas that the coach is going to hit on. we'll focus on that going into camp more. >>> of course you would never know, but i don't really see jim harbaugh doing what his brother john did the other day with his team, the ravens. bringing an ice cream truck in to break up the monotony of camp. looks like the guys...
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>> yes. >> i'll reference defense 10w. what's that >> that's a chain that's in the room that amanda -- i'm sorry gina dejesus and michele knight shared. >> next one. 10x, what does this photo depict? >> that is a hole through the wall, i believe that were photos on the side of gina and michele's room through theirs running a power cord that's plugged into the other room and the chain. >> now, for that small side room, the 7 x 11 room with the window nailed shut was there any attempt to provide ventilation in that small space? >> there was a small cut out in the ceiling and a box fan in the attic. >> so, the actual plaster was cut away, an opening made and some electrical service to the attic was providing a fan? >> correct. >> next, please. >> showing you states 10y do you recognize what's shown there? >> yes. >> what is it? >> chains. locks. >> do generally where those were found? >> those were found in the upstairs bedrooms. >> next photo. we're now on state's 10z. we're in the basement. what is of significance in this p
>> yes. >> i'll reference defense 10w. what's that >> that's a chain that's in the room that amanda -- i'm sorry gina dejesus and michele knight shared. >> next one. 10x, what does this photo depict? >> that is a hole through the wall, i believe that were photos on the side of gina and michele's room through theirs running a power cord that's plugged into the other room and the chain. >> now, for that small side room, the 7 x 11 room with the window nailed...
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you know, our red zone, our defense, we looked at that today. it wasn't that good. we gave up a lot of touchdowns. we've got to improve on that. i'm pretty sure there were other yeas that the coach is going to hit on. we'll focus on that going into camp more. >>> of course you would never know, but i don't really see jim harbaugh doing what his brother john did the other day with his team, the ravens. bringing an ice cream truck in to break up the monotony of camp. looks like the guys went full tilt with that. breaking their diets. all around, a pretty good idea. i talked recently, fairly recently to john madden. he said training camp used to be fun. you'd get your work in, but you'd also have fun, that was kind of nice to see. so much of it is business right now. >> looks like that was fun. >> old school. >>> thank you for making ktvu your choice for news. >> the ktvu morning team will you're on timeout leo! ♪ ♪ some things won't last 25 years. ah! woof. some things will. save up to 20% on an ikea kitchen. today on "tmz." craziest longer the person at the unive
you know, our red zone, our defense, we looked at that today. it wasn't that good. we gave up a lot of touchdowns. we've got to improve on that. i'm pretty sure there were other yeas that the coach is going to hit on. we'll focus on that going into camp more. >>> of course you would never know, but i don't really see jim harbaugh doing what his brother john did the other day with his team, the ravens. bringing an ice cream truck in to break up the monotony of camp. looks like the guys...
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but that wasn't the factual pattern asserted by the defense here. it's true that stand your ground legally speaking didn't apply. and even the way the jurors talk about their verdict, it doesn't seem it really applied to them. the funny thing about it is they keep saying the law required us, the law required us. but that's nonsense. the law itself does not require you to do anything. the fact you find require you to do something. and then the facts apply to the law dictate the verdict. but if you had not already found, jurors had not already found that trayvon martin was the aggressor basically that. >> couldn't have come up with this verdict. so to me, it's their way of dancing around the fact that they determined that trayvon martin threw the first punch and got george zimmerman down, essentially buying the defense, hook, line and sinker. >> i wish somebody had said what you just said at the trial. maybe the prosecutor. maybe the judge. >> hear hear. >> marcia clark, lisa bloom, faith jenkins, thank you for your time tonight. >>> coming up, bill o
but that wasn't the factual pattern asserted by the defense here. it's true that stand your ground legally speaking didn't apply. and even the way the jurors talk about their verdict, it doesn't seem it really applied to them. the funny thing about it is they keep saying the law required us, the law required us. but that's nonsense. the law itself does not require you to do anything. the fact you find require you to do something. and then the facts apply to the law dictate the verdict. but if...
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that goes to self-defense. the message was always that he was doing his job in his capacity as a night watchman. he stayed on message. as a prosecutor, you are corroborating your evidence, and that is what the message you're sending to the jury. >> we have to break. i want you to stay with us. we are going to look at the case of marissa alexander in florida. we will speak with a protester who is walking with a group of people from jacksonville to stanford. she has met with marissa alexander a number of times and ran to her in jail. she is a woman that was sentenced to 20 years to prison -- she was prosecuted, rather, the same prosecutors as zimmerman. she did not get to stand her ground. she fired into a wall to warn her abusive husband to get away, who had abused her and other women in his life. she did not hurt him but was sentenced to 20 years in prison, which she is serving now. ♪ [music break] >> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we turn to the growing p
that goes to self-defense. the message was always that he was doing his job in his capacity as a night watchman. he stayed on message. as a prosecutor, you are corroborating your evidence, and that is what the message you're sending to the jury. >> we have to break. i want you to stay with us. we are going to look at the case of marissa alexander in florida. we will speak with a protester who is walking with a group of people from jacksonville to stanford. she has met with marissa...
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. >> bart's chief negotiator on the defense as we move closer to a strike. >> union reps told us still no movement whatsoever on the major issues of wages and benefits. >> my sexual problem has really taken a toll on my life. >> sentencing day for the ohio man who held three women captive for more than a decade. >> just a horrific completely after the fact malicious kick to the head of the poor woman on the ground. >> public tips help catch the man behind a brutal attack. >> very frightening. >> new details on an nsa tool that tracks nearly everything you do on the internet. >> they have multiple ways to get at all your information. >> reporter: president obama is expected to sign a big that would bring down the interest rates on student loans. from across the bay to around the world, the stories that matter on "kpix 5 news this morning. captions by: caption colorado comments@captioncolorado.com >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald. >>> good morning. it's thursday, august 1. i'm michelle griego. >> hi, everyone. i'm frank mallicoat. 5:00. let's get you out the door with tr
. >> bart's chief negotiator on the defense as we move closer to a strike. >> union reps told us still no movement whatsoever on the major issues of wages and benefits. >> my sexual problem has really taken a toll on my life. >> sentencing day for the ohio man who held three women captive for more than a decade. >> just a horrific completely after the fact malicious kick to the head of the poor woman on the ground. >> public tips help catch the man behind a...
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it was whether he was legitimately exercising seventy defense or not. she's not a lawyer. that's not a big, big difference. what i think is important to say just at the outset is that second thoughts by jurors are fairly common, and they have no legal significance. you can't get a verdict set aside. you can't change, you can't get a retrail. nothing can happen as a result of a juror saying i wish i had voted another way. >> benjamin crump, let me play another part of juror b-29's interview with abc. listen to this. >> i know that you've heard some people have said point blank, they have said george zimmerman got away with murder. how do you respond to those people that say that? >> george zimmerman -- that's -- george zimmerman got away with murder, but you can't get away from god, and at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with. the law couldn't prove it, but, you know, you know the world goes in circles. >> benjamin, do your clients, trayvon martin's parents agree with that? >> well, they have always maintained, wolf, that
it was whether he was legitimately exercising seventy defense or not. she's not a lawyer. that's not a big, big difference. what i think is important to say just at the outset is that second thoughts by jurors are fairly common, and they have no legal significance. you can't get a verdict set aside. you can't change, you can't get a retrail. nothing can happen as a result of a juror saying i wish i had voted another way. >> benjamin crump, let me play another part of juror b-29's...
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i've worked with the fbi as a criminal defense lawyer. they always want to talk to my client to get a statement and find out where he was, what he was doing, who he knew. they had the exact opposite. they didn't put him under surveillance and hope for the best. they went out to talk to him. >> greta, you're talking about after he's your client. i'm talking about active investigation going on. when you look at things in the criminal world, it's similar to a terrorist world as far as investigations go. they're out there working these active investigations. they have to look at the entire case. they're not lack of report trying to get a good story. they're going to actually go out and develop the leads and each piece of the pie leads to another piece the pie. >> let me tell you two problems why i'm suspicious of that viewpoint. number one, last september a man from tunisia went into custody in tunisia and the fbi supposedly wanted to talk to him and the report was that the fbi couldn't. the tunisian government wouldn't let that happen. we we
i've worked with the fbi as a criminal defense lawyer. they always want to talk to my client to get a statement and find out where he was, what he was doing, who he knew. they had the exact opposite. they didn't put him under surveillance and hope for the best. they went out to talk to him. >> greta, you're talking about after he's your client. i'm talking about active investigation going on. when you look at things in the criminal world, it's similar to a terrorist world as far as...
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was the jury consultant for the george zimmerman defense team. great to see both of you on the show. and natalie, let me start with you. she said she owes the martin family an apology. i want to get your response to what she said. >> it is hard for me to sleep. hard for me to eat. i feel that i was forcefully included in trayvon martin's death. and i carry him on my back, i'm hurting as much as trayvon martin's mom is. there's no way that any mother should feel that pain. >> what's your reaction? >> well, my reaction is that i feel for her. i do. and i know that she issued an apology to sybrina fulton and i think that's between her and sybrina to talk about, really. i have not spoken to sybrina about that. but you know, it's her decision and she has to live with that. >> barbara, let me tell you what we know that this juror. i want to emphasize, she did choose to show her face but she is going by mady, not giving her full name. she is worried about possible retribution. we know she is 36 years old. she describes herself as puerto rican. she has o
was the jury consultant for the george zimmerman defense team. great to see both of you on the show. and natalie, let me start with you. she said she owes the martin family an apology. i want to get your response to what she said. >> it is hard for me to sleep. hard for me to eat. i feel that i was forcefully included in trayvon martin's death. and i carry him on my back, i'm hurting as much as trayvon martin's mom is. there's no way that any mother should feel that pain. >> what's...
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it was self-defense. it makes no sense to us and if you try to divorce yourself of passion, but the prosecutor said it right, you reverse the roles, nobody is going to stay -- this is where i agree with mark. it was jury selection that the case was won or lost, unfortunately, because nobody took the perspective of trayvon martin that he was fighting for his life, that he went to his grave not knowing who was this strange, creepy man following him. >> the jurors near the end of the da liberations asked for clarification on manslaughter and the judge said read the document again. if you want clarification, you got to ask specific questions. the jurors apparently never came back with a specific question and as a result may have been confused. jeffrey, go ahead. >> this under lines a real problem with the legal system, which is that jury instructions as a rule are often incomprehensible to ordinary people. i mean, you read these words, the reasonable, intention, you know, double triple negatives in the same s
it was self-defense. it makes no sense to us and if you try to divorce yourself of passion, but the prosecutor said it right, you reverse the roles, nobody is going to stay -- this is where i agree with mark. it was jury selection that the case was won or lost, unfortunately, because nobody took the perspective of trayvon martin that he was fighting for his life, that he went to his grave not knowing who was this strange, creepy man following him. >> the jurors near the end of the da...
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she used the stand your ground for her defense. joining me is faith gay, one of the attorneys for marisa alexander and previously incorrectly said her mother would be here but you're her attorney not her mother. now what's the latest in marisa's case right now? >> currently it's up on appeal in the first district court of appeal. oral argument hasn't been set yet but there's been full briefing and we're awaiting to hear if there's oral argument before the court of appeals. >> what are the option then that the court of appeals has before them. >> the court has a wide range of options as it always does. it can send the case back for rehearing on the stand your ground defense. it can reverse the jury verdict out right. it can affirm. it can issue a ruling about the sentence. i want has a wide variety of options whether points raised by the appellant or the court itself has its own view of certain issues. >> what do you make of the attention this case is receiving in the wake of the george zimmerman murder trial? downing the comparison
she used the stand your ground for her defense. joining me is faith gay, one of the attorneys for marisa alexander and previously incorrectly said her mother would be here but you're her attorney not her mother. now what's the latest in marisa's case right now? >> currently it's up on appeal in the first district court of appeal. oral argument hasn't been set yet but there's been full briefing and we're awaiting to hear if there's oral argument before the court of appeals. >> what...
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he was aware of the report he and others authored within the defense department and tried to get those in congress and the executive branch to pay attention to the findings in the report and went to the new york times as a last resort. in the case of bradley manning and edward snowden, they went to the guardian and to wikileak' as a first resort so i don't see them as whistle-blowers. i think in the case of bradley manning, he had no idea what was in many of the documents he provided. i don't think there is any human being that yet has gone through all 700,000 documents. so i think it's hard -- the first cable he provided was about a dispute called i save between iceland's great britain and the netherlands. the united states was not a party to it. so from iraq i don't think he's in a position to evaluate u.s. policy towards iceland and decide whether it's right or wrong. >> i mean, alan, if you don't bun niche the whistle-blowers, traitors, whatever you want to call them, no matter what side you're on, you can't have open season. you can't have everybody you have access to classified m
he was aware of the report he and others authored within the defense department and tried to get those in congress and the executive branch to pay attention to the findings in the report and went to the new york times as a last resort. in the case of bradley manning and edward snowden, they went to the guardian and to wikileak' as a first resort so i don't see them as whistle-blowers. i think in the case of bradley manning, he had no idea what was in many of the documents he provided. i don't...
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see where we can go from here and understand that that was a case about self-defense and not about race. >> i think it's an interesting point. liberal blacks and conservative blacks ought to sit down together. >> absolutely. >> and have that discussion. no honkies at the table. okay? just start off with people who have divergent views in the community. >> bob? >> i like it that he said honky. i like that. >> oh, my goodness. >> it's not honky-tonk like country music. >> i have been called a honky before. >> that's because you're always in the car honking your car. >> i think jay z seems very sincere to me. did not see that kind of sincerity when he took the pleasure trip to cuba and didn't mention the fact there that most african-americans there are treated very poorly in cuba and the people there are desperate for any sort of freedom they can get their hands on. that was a pure publicity ploy in cuba. i think -- i thought what he just said was very sincere. but i help but wonder if this is so misguided when you look at the fact there was a trial, there was a jury. there was the convict
see where we can go from here and understand that that was a case about self-defense and not about race. >> i think it's an interesting point. liberal blacks and conservative blacks ought to sit down together. >> absolutely. >> and have that discussion. no honkies at the table. okay? just start off with people who have divergent views in the community. >> bob? >> i like it that he said honky. i like that. >> oh, my goodness. >> it's not honky-tonk like...
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defensive tackles, quarterbacks and cornerbacks are all working with united way. for a million little reasons. the kids of our communities. to ensure their academic success, all the way to graduation day. it takes about 12 years to create a graduate. it takes the same time to create a dropout. and the difference between a kid becoming one or the other could be professional athlete. or it could be you. studies show, the earlier we get to kids, the better their chances. so become a united way volunteer reader, tutor or mentor. make a difference in the life of a child. for the life of that child. give. advocate. volunteer. live. united. join your favorite nfl players. take the pledge. go to unitedway.org. >> live from the kgo-tv broadcast center this is abc7 news. >> good thursday morning. thanks for joining us. >> first up, mike nicco is looking at our forecast. are things changing, sirst. >> a little bit. it is clearer this morning than yesterday morning. the clouds are arriving on schedule and will come back in a few hours. we will look at what will happen this af
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possible defenses. have you discussed all of this with your lawyer? the judge has to go through in any criminal case and especially one that's this serious for capital punishment is a possibility. >> as time consuming as it is, the judge will dot a all the ts and cross all the ts. >> if he didn't mr. castro could come back years later and say i didn't know what i was doing and that could vacate the plea. >> ariel castro said a couple of things we both raised our eyebrows. he said to the judge, i knew i was going get the book thrown at me. he also talked about his sexual problems. i don't understand exactly what he meant by that. he said i don't understand some things because of my sexual problems. >> yeah. i didn't know how that affected his ability to read. i also thought it was interesting, he said i was going to tell the fbi from the very beginning i was going to work with them all along. this is a different ariel castro. i know he is monstrous no matter when you see him but seems almost at peace. every other instance we saw him he seemed twitchy,
possible defenses. have you discussed all of this with your lawyer? the judge has to go through in any criminal case and especially one that's this serious for capital punishment is a possibility. >> as time consuming as it is, the judge will dot a all the ts and cross all the ts. >> if he didn't mr. castro could come back years later and say i didn't know what i was doing and that could vacate the plea. >> ariel castro said a couple of things we both raised our eyebrows. he...
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. >> reporter: a very different take today from one of george zimmerman's defense attorneys, who drew special attention to this exchange. >> for myself, he's guilty, because the evidence shows he's guilty. >> he's guilty of? >> killing trayvon martin. but as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't find -- you can't say he's guilty. >> defense attorney mark o'mara singling out that response on his blog, to applaud juror b29 for going with her head rather than her heart, saying that was the job of a juror. today, trayvon martin's mom vowing to continue the fight, saying we cannot let this happen to anybody else's child. >> thank you. >>> we do move on to the dramatic images caught on tape, the horrific train crash in spain, and tonight we're hearing from an american passenger describing the moment the train barrelled off the tracks as it collided with that barrier there. tonight, this image, 18-year-old stephen ward from utah being helped at the crash scene. nick schifrin in spain for us again tonight. >> reporter: out of the charred twis
. >> reporter: a very different take today from one of george zimmerman's defense attorneys, who drew special attention to this exchange. >> for myself, he's guilty, because the evidence shows he's guilty. >> he's guilty of? >> killing trayvon martin. but as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't find -- you can't say he's guilty. >> defense attorney mark o'mara singling out that response on his blog, to applaud...
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it was self-defense. it makes no sense to us and if you try to divorce yourself of passion, but the prosecutor said it right, you reverse the roles, nobody is going to stay -- this is where i agree with mark. it was jury selection that the case was won or lost, unfortunately, because nobody took the perspective of trayvon martin that he was fighting for his life, that he went to his grave not knowing who was this strange, creepy man following him. >> the jurors near the end of the dell ratia liberations aske clarification on manslaughter and the judge said read the document again. if you want clarification, you got to ask specific questions. the jurors apparently never came back with a specific question and as a result may have been confused. jeffrey, go ahead. >> this under lines a real problem with the legal system, which is that jury instructions as a rule are often incomprehensible to ordinary people. i mean, you read these words, the reasonable, intention, you know, double triple negatives in the sam
it was self-defense. it makes no sense to us and if you try to divorce yourself of passion, but the prosecutor said it right, you reverse the roles, nobody is going to stay -- this is where i agree with mark. it was jury selection that the case was won or lost, unfortunately, because nobody took the perspective of trayvon martin that he was fighting for his life, that he went to his grave not knowing who was this strange, creepy man following him. >> the jurors near the end of the dell...
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the issue was whether or not it was self-defense or not. and these jurors had that question posed to them. they had the law. fanned they thought there was nord reasonable doubt there this was murder they should have spoken up in the jury room. not weeks later after media attacks their. system we agree to live by. >> laura: i don't like these post-trial interviews, first of afind thee helpful at all. they seem to be a bit self-serving. first of all, murder requires intent. she said well, we couldn't prove intent. but he got away with murder. if you can't prove intent, it's not murder. obviously we have a dead teenager, which is a horrible thing. and a tragic thing. but murder requires certain elements of proof. stacy, you can jump in here. >> sure, yeah. >> laura: for everyone to say ah-ha look this shows you the system is rigged. i don't think it shows that at all. i speak a a former white collar criminal attorney. >> not at all. and justifiable killing is never the equivalent of murder under the law the elephant in this room in this verdic
the issue was whether or not it was self-defense or not. and these jurors had that question posed to them. they had the law. fanned they thought there was nord reasonable doubt there this was murder they should have spoken up in the jury room. not weeks later after media attacks their. system we agree to live by. >> laura: i don't like these post-trial interviews, first of afind thee helpful at all. they seem to be a bit self-serving. first of all, murder requires intent. she said well,...
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but that wasn't the factual pattern asserted by the defense here. it's true that stand your ground legally speaking didn't apply. and even the way the jurors talk about their verdict, it doesn't seem it really applied to them. the funny thing about it is they keep saying the law required us, the law required us. but that's nonsense. the law itself does not require you to do anything. the fact you find require you to do something. and then the facts apply to the law dictate the verdict. but if you had not already found, jurors had not already found that trayvon martin was the aggressor basically that. >> couldn't have come up with this verdict. so to me, it's their way of dancing around the fact that they determined that trayvon martin threw the first punch and got george zimmerman down, essentially buying the defense, hook, line and sinker. >> i wish somebody had said what you just said at the trial. maybe the prosecutor. maybe the judge. >> hear hear. >> marcia clark, lisa bloom, faith jenkins, thank you for your time tonight. >>> coming up, bill o
but that wasn't the factual pattern asserted by the defense here. it's true that stand your ground legally speaking didn't apply. and even the way the jurors talk about their verdict, it doesn't seem it really applied to them. the funny thing about it is they keep saying the law required us, the law required us. but that's nonsense. the law itself does not require you to do anything. the fact you find require you to do something. and then the facts apply to the law dictate the verdict. but if...
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however despite it failing, the overall nearly $600 million defense spending bill did pass. >>> four f-16 fighter jets will not be heading to egypt yet. the pentagon is delaying it as the administration continues after they overthrew president morsi. >>> pope francis, today, meets the poor in rio de janeiro. police are expected to be out in force during this visit. 20% of rio's residents live there. the pope is said to have specifically asked to see one in person during this trip to brazil. >>> tropical storm dorey is the fourth named storm. forecasters are keeping a close watch on it. indra petersons is one of the forecasters. what is the storm headed our way? >> good morning. it's interesting because it's early in the season. there are a lot of things to inhibit its growth. it's a strong, tropical storm. it is trying so hard to hold together. winds moving at 16 miles per hour. it's moving quickly to the west/northwest at 17 miles per hour. let's talk about what is ahead of it in its path. all of this dry air. we are watching all of this. anything up here could weaken the system. th
however despite it failing, the overall nearly $600 million defense spending bill did pass. >>> four f-16 fighter jets will not be heading to egypt yet. the pentagon is delaying it as the administration continues after they overthrew president morsi. >>> pope francis, today, meets the poor in rio de janeiro. police are expected to be out in force during this visit. 20% of rio's residents live there. the pope is said to have specifically asked to see one in person during this...
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a black teenager shot dead after a white gunman claiming defense opens fire on him and his friends. anderson talks to the dead boy's parents. later, what anthony weiner's sexting partner has to say about the man, what she wants to say to his wife and what the voters have to say about it all. we begin, though, with the zimmerman juror b29, the only nonwhite juror, her name is maddie, the one holdout, at least for a while. she says she owes trayvon martin's family an apology, because she ultimately had no choice but to acquit a man she calls a murderer. she spoke to abc's robin roberts. the interview aired on abc's "world news." >> what was your first vote? >> my first vote was second degree murder. >> second degree murder? >> it was hard. a lot of us wanted to find something bad, something that we could connect to the loss. for myself, he's guilty because the evidence shows he's guilty. >> he's guilty of? >> killing trayvon martin. but as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't say he's guilty. >> did you want to step out at all? >> i
a black teenager shot dead after a white gunman claiming defense opens fire on him and his friends. anderson talks to the dead boy's parents. later, what anthony weiner's sexting partner has to say about the man, what she wants to say to his wife and what the voters have to say about it all. we begin, though, with the zimmerman juror b29, the only nonwhite juror, her name is maddie, the one holdout, at least for a while. she says she owes trayvon martin's family an apology, because she...
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she spoke in his defense after he admitted he september on sexting after he resigned. >>> dana caught up with anthony weiner outside of his apartment. what is he saying now? >> reporter: there was a gaggle of press, as you can imagine, and effectively what anthony weiner was trying to say, nothing to see here, nothing has changed, i'm still running for mayor, and nothing will stop me from doing that. listen to what he told reporters on that issue. >> everyone has to decide, look, i know there are people who may well never conceive about it because of the things that are in my past, i -- you know, i have to tell you, for those of you out on the campaign trail, you know, they want to talk about housing, they want to find out affordable jobs with benefits, and i'm going to keep talking about those things. >> we also sent an e-mail to supporters this afternoon, john, trying to appeal to new yorkers' sensibilities, yet as a new yorker you know what i'm talking about. he said new yorkers don't quit, but he also did acknowledge the mistakes the fumble in this play for a redemption that he's
she spoke in his defense after he admitted he september on sexting after he resigned. >>> dana caught up with anthony weiner outside of his apartment. what is he saying now? >> reporter: there was a gaggle of press, as you can imagine, and effectively what anthony weiner was trying to say, nothing to see here, nothing has changed, i'm still running for mayor, and nothing will stop me from doing that. listen to what he told reporters on that issue. >> everyone has to decide,...
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so she believes self-defense, she would have told us that. she is using the law as a scapegoat right now for not owning up to not finding the verdict that she was intending to find. >> or did she not understand the law? >> well, this is the thing. you have people who are lay people, right, who don't understand the law, who the instructions given to them by the judge, and i have to also fault the prosecution. the smartest thing mark o'mara ever did is bring up that chart. >> the thermostat? >> the thermostat that was highly influential obviously among these jurors. and i do have to question also whether b37, because this is why you don't want lawyers' wives on. she probably had undue influence too. my husband is a lawyer there are all these things that could have gone on in that jury room. the bottom line is whether the judge instructed them properly on the law. whether the prosecution properly explained the law. clearly this juror feels she rendered a verdict that went about her gut instinct and her belief about what it should have been. >> b
so she believes self-defense, she would have told us that. she is using the law as a scapegoat right now for not owning up to not finding the verdict that she was intending to find. >> or did she not understand the law? >> well, this is the thing. you have people who are lay people, right, who don't understand the law, who the instructions given to them by the judge, and i have to also fault the prosecution. the smartest thing mark o'mara ever did is bring up that chart. >>...
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impossible how the lies would have been connected to him lying about self-defense. that is the big failure here. ultimately i think even the jurors are coming out now to say we feel that the justice system failed us. i think the subtext of what they are saying is we didn't really like being a part of this. we don't feel good about our verdict. we did what we swore we would do but we don't like it. we feel an injustice was done and we hope god rectifies him. >> that was something you heard from both jurors they do not like having to do what they did. thank you both for your time. this is something we could talk so much more before but unfortunately we are out of time. i should note that george zimmerman has sued nbc universal for dep deaf medication. the company has strongly denied his allegation. >>> the big question. we want your reaction after hearing b-29 juror's interview. tell us what you think. >>> from newtown to aurora to the streets of chicago, gun violence has become a tragic reality in this country. while congress looks for consensus how to tackle the pro
impossible how the lies would have been connected to him lying about self-defense. that is the big failure here. ultimately i think even the jurors are coming out now to say we feel that the justice system failed us. i think the subtext of what they are saying is we didn't really like being a part of this. we don't feel good about our verdict. we did what we swore we would do but we don't like it. we feel an injustice was done and we hope god rectifies him. >> that was something you heard...
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another line of defense is they scoop up tons but it's okay because they have a lot of rules about it. second there are questions about whether there have ever been any violation. with today's declassified information, can you shed any light on what these violations on americans' privacy were? >> i can't get into those details, but again i will try to add some context. first, those violations at the intelligence community were violations of court orders, jake. so when you hear something say there aren't any violations we point to that one specifically. in my view didn't fully portrayed the extend of the problems. >>> all right. senator ron wyden, we've been talking about this issue for weeks, we've wanted you as a guest, and we'll continue to try to get you on the show -- >> we'll do it again. >> thank you, senator. >>> coming up, move over joe camel. energy drinks are being accused of intentionally marketing to children. is this stuff even safe for your kids to drink. >>> later, have you had your daily dose of propaganda today? no? you might want to start following the inns that gram
another line of defense is they scoop up tons but it's okay because they have a lot of rules about it. second there are questions about whether there have ever been any violation. with today's declassified information, can you shed any light on what these violations on americans' privacy were? >> i can't get into those details, but again i will try to add some context. first, those violations at the intelligence community were violations of court orders, jake. so when you hear something...
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hasan's case. >> bill: sure. >> giving him defense even though he says he is representing himself and giving him all of the experts that he needs. and by the way, the military justice system, this crime happened in 2009. what are we waiting for? >> bill: guantanamo bay people have been there and nobody is on trial because they don't want to try them. >> exactly. >> bill: hasan, they just delay it just like the civil justice system as well. you say they have put $4 million. >> $4 million in addition to 300,000. >> bill: do they have any money left over to execute him? i mean, are they going to have to borrow that money? because is he going. you know he is going. >> he is definitely going. here's the thing, besides executing him and he deserves to be executed, that's just my opinion. >> bill: um-huh. >> what about all of the victims because the military will not identify this as an act of terrorism, instead, it's work place violence. >> bill: 4 million wasted. you have to go through the justice system. >> i get that but the 300,000? >> bill: all right. there is the judge, everyone. buy
hasan's case. >> bill: sure. >> giving him defense even though he says he is representing himself and giving him all of the experts that he needs. and by the way, the military justice system, this crime happened in 2009. what are we waiting for? >> bill: guantanamo bay people have been there and nobody is on trial because they don't want to try them. >> exactly. >> bill: hasan, they just delay it just like the civil justice system as well. you say they have put $4...
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joining me now is criminal defense attorney. good morning and welcome to you, sema. she seems to be going over the same thing again. let's play another clip. >> for myself, he's guilty. because the evidence shows he's guilty. >> he's guilty of? >> killing trayvon martin. but we couldn't prove that intentionally he killed him. >> i know i went the right way because the law, the way it was followed is the way i went. but tpeultd have used my heart i probably would have went hung jury. >> so for some that's going to seem very contradictory. interpret what she's saying. do you agree there's a difference between what your heart wants and what the law tells you to do. >> i think there's no polygraph in that jury room so go with your heart. no one would have challenged her verdict. i don't understand why she chose, and i say chose, to interpret the law the way she has been doing. right now this interview that she's giving is just to essuage the public and the parents and justify this contradictory verdict, as you say. she makes very confounding statements, right? she says i
joining me now is criminal defense attorney. good morning and welcome to you, sema. she seems to be going over the same thing again. let's play another clip. >> for myself, he's guilty. because the evidence shows he's guilty. >> he's guilty of? >> killing trayvon martin. but we couldn't prove that intentionally he killed him. >> i know i went the right way because the law, the way it was followed is the way i went. but tpeultd have used my heart i probably would have...
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. >> this is what the defense feared, the possibility that some of these jurors might decide this case based on emotion and not based on the law. even she said, she said she still thinks he did the right thing, because she followed the law, if she followed her heart, she would have hung that jury. >> she even said she would give them the hung jury, i fought to the end. so there was debate. >> there was debate. they asked for the manslaughter charge read back. if there had been one or two more maddies back there, this could have been a hung jury. >> dan, thank you. much more of robin's interview with that juror tonight on "nightline" and tomorrow morning robin on "good morning america," weighing in on that torn juror, struggling with the heart break, but standing by the verdict. the exclusive on "good morning america." >>> in the meantime, also breaking tonight, the frightening landing, the southwest jet at a new york airport. the unsettling images from inside the plane. tonight we've just learned, it wasn't the landing gear that failed. it was that the nose of the jet was coming down f
. >> this is what the defense feared, the possibility that some of these jurors might decide this case based on emotion and not based on the law. even she said, she said she still thinks he did the right thing, because she followed the law, if she followed her heart, she would have hung that jury. >> she even said she would give them the hung jury, i fought to the end. so there was debate. >> there was debate. they asked for the manslaughter charge read back. if there had been...
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this is not an issue of race, it's an issue of self-defense law. and your hypothetical second situation. god forbid it happens, i hope it doesn't. i hope it doesn't ever happen to anyone. but if they go through that same level of review again, and it's found self-defense, that's the law. >> what is your view of florida's stand your ground law, and indeed a law that many other states have embraced. >> well, the united states did not have a duty to retrieve its laws in most states until the 1920s and 1930s, i think it's important for people to understand that whether we're talking duty to retreat, stand your ground or whatever, that doesn't arise until the lethal physical confrontation already has occurred. mr. zimmerman was not standing his ground. the evidence shows he was laying on the ground and having his head bashed into the concrete. >> i asked you what your view of the stand your ground law was, not george zimmerman. >> the united states did not have a duty retrieve its laws until the 1920s and 1930s, we looked at it extensively, in many cour
this is not an issue of race, it's an issue of self-defense law. and your hypothetical second situation. god forbid it happens, i hope it doesn't. i hope it doesn't ever happen to anyone. but if they go through that same level of review again, and it's found self-defense, that's the law. >> what is your view of florida's stand your ground law, and indeed a law that many other states have embraced. >> well, the united states did not have a duty to retrieve its laws in most states...